Re: Cooperation, Trust, and other related words

Posted by ShaunS on
URL: https://coalpha.arkian.net/Trust-tp6350321p7576599.html

This is yet another hopelessly confused thread from page 5.

The opening argument is quite good but the general theme is lacking.

As a small group what you would have is a 'cult'. This cult would be doing something which in the modern world would need to be profitable. It would require some skill and ability and the members would compete against one another to produce better 'products' or 'performances'. The purpose is not just to sell that activity but in some way to also attract females thus resolving the problems of the group and the reason why people would join the group in the first place.

Membership would confer a license to participate. Participation would result in the generation of funds and the attraction of females. There would be rules relating to the interaction between members which would be on the basis of 'trust' with reference to females and the general practice of the cult in the development of the activities that produce income. So correct and accepted methods and procedures. Breaking these rules would then result in the 'license' being withdrawn from the the member for a time, and the result would be that the member would not be allowed to participate. The failure to participate would then produce a lack of funds and a lack of female interaction. This would then motivate the pursuit of correct behaviour in keeping with the expected norms of the group to allow continued participation, which would lead to 'trust'.

So typically you need to centre the 'cult' around a practical activity that makes money while attracting female fans. Then you need clear rules and clear authorisation, which is only available to compliant members. Now... perhaps an example would be the Guardian Angels (although not ideal).

This would require some clever money making concept that would hinge on some kind of trade secret that competitors could not determine, but again a simple sport like Wrestling would be a typical example. It has trade secrets, the average person cannot participate, the members compete and put on a show to attract both money and fans, and they have a degree of trust amongst themselves - so wrestling is a kind of cult. You would need something similar to this.

The Magic Circle is a club joined by magicians to share their secrets and tricks so they can perform better and earn more money while attracting more fans. So this has a lot in common with Wrestling but look at how different these two jobs are. I think that what is being referred to is a SIG - Special Interest Group and such groups seem to be very common in America.

I think that this also puts a bit of a spin on the notion that this should be some kind of religion. A religion is not really the concept here it's more of a clan or a tribal in-club. It requires an element of the strange much like the Amish Community. They may be seen as nutty, but they do have a very clear theme, they do present a very clear appearance (they are a cult - but a successful one).