Posted by ShaunS on
URL: https://coalpha.arkian.net/The-Problem-Is-Us-Not-Them-tp6017977p7576312.html

Please forgive me for not giving time for anyone to respond.

Consider this website (apologies for this, cos it's awful):
http://changefromwithin.org/2014/05/21/against-patriarchy-tools-for-men-to-further-feminist-revolution/

This bit's mine: "Just like any other effort to win and create another world,"

This bit's yours:

 10. Practice noticing who’s in the room at meetings and events: How many cisgender men? How many cisgender women? How many transgender people? How many White people? How many people of Color? Is it majority heterosexual? Are there out Queer people? What are people’s class backgrounds? Don’t assume to know people, but also work at becoming more aware. Listen to people and pick up on how they identify themselves. Talk with people one-on-one who you work with and get to know them. Learn about the various ways that people identify and express their gender and explore what it means to be transgender, genderqueer, and gender non-conforming.


Now I studied the suffragette movement and they were very unsuccessful despite their hostile methods. Women in the UK got the vote because they worked in factories during WW1. They gained public support and during this time ceased all hostilities. Without WW1 women would not have been given the vote!

Contrast that to the feminism above. What I have been suggesting may not be powerful enough to achieve the results achieved by American feminists who are so much more successful than the British suffragettes.

If Jehovah appeared to me and gave me paragraph 10 above as an encouragement to become a feminist... I would become a Buddhist instead (despite the 'Or else' concept). So a feminist is more powerful and persuasive than a God? Clearly the problem is deeper than expected.

There is a significant difference between the Suffragette movement and the Feminist movement. If that is an external psychogenic effect then clearly the effect is stronger in America than the UK. It has been suggested than Sweden has also been a centre for feminism (if I recall correctly). Perhaps it is a form of hostility designed to attack the nation (if not the world)?