Re: A question about 'omega males' prospering

Posted by fschmidt on
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chibbity wrote
In the Netherlands, at least, as with a lot of western Europe, marriage has become an institution mostly for the religious. Most young, non-religious people form long-term cohabitation love relationships and have children within those boundaries, which is a different thing altogether from not knowing who the father is.
America is different in this regard.

Both the young men and the young women in my class (there were twelve, so it's quite a low sample size) have no interests in settling down at this point, but engage in serial monogamy with potential long-term life partners selected on the basis of mutually shared interest and attraction. The one exception is actually the most intelligent guy in the class who's spending some time right now sleeping around with women who are interested in the same thing.
America is also different in this regard.  It has been a long time since I was last in the Netherlands, but I remember it as being an unusually civilized country, so the decay will take longer.  America is way ahead of the Netherlands in terms of decay.

That said, even serial monogamy is problematic.  Studies show that divorce risk increases as the number of premarital sexual partners increases for women.  I would assume this would hold true as well for unofficial marriages.  More significant is the study Sex and Culture by anthropologist Unwin which shows the relationship between female premarital chastity and civilization over longer periods of time.  I am not that familiar with the history of the Netherlands, but as a former Protestant country, I assume the rules for female chastity were considerably stricter in the past.  Cultural breakdown takes time.

The girls, at least, aren't selecting for "bad boys" but for competent peers.
 
Maybe in the Netherlands, but not in America.  Anyway, I am sure the Netherlands will catch up soon enough.

I'm missing some math here, I think. If this hypothetical woman is sleeping around casually with the neighborhood men (NM) who will later be marriage material, why does the NB have "virtually no sex in his prime years" if she was being a slut?  Assuming that all the girls we're talking about are neighborhood girls (NG) and they are having lots of sex, primarily with NM, but let's say occasionally with omega men (OM), then most of the sex in the neighborhood will be between NG and NM, leading to a roughly equal number of sexual experiences between NGs and NMs, all of which happens in the prime of their lives.
You are a statistician?  In this case you should have been able to figure out the answer.  While the average number of partners must be equal, a higher variance for men would make the median number of partners higher for women which would mean that most women have more sexual partners than most men.  In non-mathematical terms, a few guys are screwing most of the women.