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In our thread on values, I listed trust/honesty and cooperation, Drealm listed reliability and responsibility, and J. Donner listed honor as some of our key values.  The meanings of words overlap and the point of this post is that these words (values) overlap so much as to be nothing more than different aspects of the same basic idea.  In fact J. Donner listed responsibility and honest as aspects of honor.  So let me go through these words to see how they relate.

trust - This allows for cooperation because one can TRUST that others will be honest, reliable, and responsible.  Trust itself is a value based on honor and loyalty.

honesty - This is a behavior that establishes trust and makes cooperation possible.  It is an aspect of honor and motivated by loyalty.

cooperation - This is the final result of the other words here, particularly of trust.  So trust is the value while cooperation is the action.

reliability  - This is really a part of honesty.  It simple means doing what you say you will do.

responsibility - Reliability is the character attribute and responsibility is the behavior, so these are two sides of the same thing.

honor - This is based on a sense of duty or loyalty, usually to some group.  Those with a shared sense of honor will also share all the other words here.

Why did I go through this exercise?  Because the sum total of what all these words describe is the thing that I feel is most important.  One either has all these things or one has none of them.  I want all of them.

The focus of the men's movement and, to some degree, CoAlpha has been negative, against feminism.  One cannot base positive action on something negative.  One needs a positive goal based on a positive value.  And this is what these words, taken together, offer.