Posted by fschmidt on
URL: https://coalpha.arkian.net/Thoughts-on-Censorship-tp5582404.html

Censorship is needed for a forum based on an indefensible premise.  This indefensible premise may be very popular, so the forum may be successful, this success depending on censorship.  From a practical point of view, removing censorship from such a forum would be a mistake.

Most views are not indefensible.  Two conflicting views may each be internally consistent and so be defensible.  For example, atheism and Christianity conflict but are both defensible.  So a forum based on either would not need censorship.  But most recent liberal views, like feminism, are not defensible, so a forum based on these views would need censorship.

Wrong Planet is a forum about Aspergers.  Aspergers is an invented psychiatric condition to describe people weak in socializing, particularly the kind of socializing that appeals to women.  It is basically nonsense and is not defensible.  A basic assumption for these kind of invented psychiatric conditions is that the problem rests totally with the individual and not at all with society.  So society is defended at all costs.  Conditions like Aspergers greatly appeal to women and feminists because this allows them to label men who don't appeal to them as defective.  Of course women also claim to have Aspergers, both to be equal with men and because women love having all kinds of conditions that can get them sympathy.  Weak men will accept this label and feel sorry for themselves.  This takes much less effort than realizing that society is the problem, and doing what it takes to succeed in a rotten society.  Obviously censorship is needed to protect a forum like Wrong Planet.

Love-shy is a forum for men who have trouble with women, much like our forum is.  But the basic premise of this forum is that dating failure is due to conditions beyond men's control.  The exact cause isn't that important as long as it isn't fixable.  This allows the men to commiserate and get sympathy.  I can understand from a psychological viewpoint why this is valued.  And like with the Aspergers men, it is much easier to complain than to take action to solve the problem.  This forum requires less censorship than Wrong Planet does.  You can complain about feminism and society as long as you don't step over the line and actually prove that this is the problem and that it can be solved.  So when I brought up Unwin's "Sex and Culture", I was stepping over this line because this book actually proves the point.  Similarly, pushing men to take action and find women outside the femisphere is stepping over the line.  So in this sense, the censorship in this forum makes sense.  I don't think Ramm (the admin) actually understands any of this consciously, but subconsciously he is offended when his loser/sympathy point of view is threatened, and this is what forms the line.

So what will happen here in this forum without censorship?  I am beginning to have doubts.  If a man posts here about his problems with women, looking for sympathy, my instinct is to tell him to get off his ass and go to a non-feminist country where he won't have these problems.  This may very well not be the answer he wanted.  Most of those men who are naturally more action oriented have probably figured this out for themselves and so won't come here in the first place.  So my question is, is this forum addressing a real niche or not?