Posted by pater on
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I tried to access the thread repeatedly but it kept coming up with an error message..

There was a note to say "inform us of this" which also produced the same error.. So I was not able to do that either..

I dont think the civilisation we have will "collapse" in the manner of other civilisations..

The west is, as we know "multicultural", so within the broader context of a nation, there are many "supported" or effectively independant subcultures.. These will take over in the battle for hegemony..

I dont know much about the collapse of civilisations, but I think much may be related to mass disease, crop failures and other events, or invasions from other civilisations..

At the same time, there have always been other civilisations that grow in time to take their place..

For example, if we take it as read that the roman civilisation was a great technical and social achievement in its heyday, with little competition, but collapsed for whatever reasons (lead poisoning of their leaders?)..

Then, it was eventually replaced and surpassed by other civilisations, even if it may have taken a long time..

The vikings and northen races were not developed in the same way, but, when populations increase, naturally, the folk start to become civilised by necessity..

Much of this is related to the food supplies, farming needs, etc..

I personally think the current excesses of feminism ARE still under check by the "patriarchy", it is merely a tool..

I see state promoted feminism as a form of "enforced chivalry" to women, a legally based model of what was previously voluntarily done by men.. And this is what men resent to most of all..

Men can either claim back their natural rights, (in the manner of subcultures, religious or other) or go along with allowing themselves to be mugged by the system..

Men have to work smart, because while feminism is in my view a mere "social blip" that will burn itself in the next few generations, what will follow is a purer, less gender divisive form of even greater state control..

Feminism is fucking men over now..

In the future, the "new world order" of megastatism will fuck over women just as effectively..

I think there will always be a "dual society" of folk who operate under the "male head of family" model and folk who operate under the "state headship" model..

I think there is that divide now. But it will become more pronounced in future as folk wise up and adapt..

We are living in a patriachal world, when we look at the true leaders of our world..

The domininance of feminist thinking and "matriachy" largely  is an illusion of the folk who are seeing things from a more lowly viewpoint..

The logic of law and social control, will always be the domain of the higher males..

The feminists, I repeat, are mere tools to implement that control over the lower males..

And few folk genuinely give a damn about lower males..

Regarding the "elite", it is perhaps not necessary to discuss the nature of the elite etc for the prime purpose of this forum in creating the culture that is possible, but any discussion about the forces that shape societies cannot really avoid recognising that they are a strong influence on the direction of society and which values are taken on board and "enforced" by the heavy hand of the state..