Can a society remain patriarchal without masculine employment industries?

Part of patriarchy is being a provider to women. In order to be a provider, men need to be employed. Certain industries/professions favor masculinity. With the deindustrialization of America, came the death of many of these industries. The housing market was the last breath of the masculine American labor force trying to hold onto it's provider role.

There are still masculine industries around, but I think it's important to distinguish between lower class, middle class and upper class industries. Only middle class industry enables the average man to become providers in large quantities. As a result of the middle class being killed off, the foot soldiers of patriarchy were killed off. This means we're left with lower class and higher class industry for enabling male providers.

Lower class industry doesn't enable providers. Higher class industry is only viable solution for becoming a male provider. In theory this sounds really good. As why would anyone want to work in middle class industries when they can just work in higher class industries? The problem is reality. Higher class industries require above average intelligence, so most men are automatically disqualified. Higher class industries are also necessarily smaller in according with the laws of supply and demand. So there's not a one to one job availability for every lost middle class job.

I think if we look around the world, we'll find feminist countries are a direct result of Masculine industries declining. I don't seek to solve this problem, as politics is a waste of time. I just wanted to put a hypothesis out there.

I've recently looked into what's known as trade cheating. There isn't any real solution to trade cheating, but I do think trade cheating (China) is the culprit for contributing to America's deindustrail decline and therefore the onset of feminism.

There are a few separate issues here.  First, in all societies where the government doesn't support women, men earn more.  This is true regardless of the types of industry.  Men are simply more driven.  As an example, the world's best cooks are men in spite of the fact that cooking is mostly done by women.  So all that is required for men to be providers is for the government to get out of the way.

On the other hand, wiping out the middle class is harmful to patriarchy because even if men are providers, they aren't providing enough and their wives will be tempted to screw around with the upper class.  This is what happened in the middle ages (in spite of most labor being masculine at that time).  And this brings us to the question of why the middle class is being wiped out.  I am strongly pro free trade and we can discuss this in another thread if you like.  My view is that the middle class falls apart when cohesion between men falls apart.  When this happens, society is unable to control the parasites who would rob its wealth.  And this is exactly what is happening today.  Wall Street is basically a bunch of parasites and the American electorate doesn't have the will to attack this problem.  So Wall Street will continue to rob the wealth of America until it collapses, which I expect to happen in this decade.  And this will completely wipe out the middle class.

The good news is that those subcultures that maintain cohesion can escape this fate.  This is what happened to the Jews in the middle ages, and I hope will happen to CoAlphas in the coming dark age.

fschmidt wrote

I am strongly pro free trade and we can discuss this in another thread if you like.

Free trade does make competitive pricing for consumers. However free trade on a global scale doesn't seem make competitive salaries for workers. Since every country outside the US practices protectionism, this leads to free market American companies being defeated by artificially subsidized foreign competitors. In other words, it seems free markets only work if all markets are free. When only one market is free that market is easily out competed.